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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jul 19, 2010 7:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: question about uploading

Does anyone know the "rules" about uploading new shows? I have a recording of the furthur 7/10/2010 show and I'd like to upload it to the archive, but I don't know if you aren't allowed to unless YOU are the one who taped it. Does anybody know if I have the right to upload this myself, assuming I have all the correct source information?

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Poster: gr8ful_one Date: Jul 19, 2010 9:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

As far as I know theres no copyright rules on GD stuff. People download, upload etc stuff all the time. I know that doesn't apply to all bands. The Dead didnt want any restrictions on anything that was played live or they wouldn't allow tapers.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Jul 19, 2010 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

I sure wish somebody would and the 7-11 too please! Those looked like nice shows, getting antsy waiting on Red ROcks, anybody travelin here to see the shows?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 19, 2010 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

Furthur are fine with shows being uploaded:

September 23, 2009, we received confirmation for Furthur shows to be hosted at the Archive.
Bret Heisler wrote: "Yes, green light. Same policy as is in place for P&F. Thanks for the jumpstart guys!"

October 2, 2009 we received updated policy info
Policy should be:
Audience-made Furthur concert recordings are available as downloads
while available soundboards are accessible in ***streaming format only***

From that I would take it that you don't have to ask their explicit permission before uploading a show. But I'd think that you ought to have the taper's permission as a matter of courtesy and make sure they get full acknowledgment.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 19, 2010 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

Hey Rob--check your email when you have a chance...small favor for me awaiting your attn. No rush. Be careful though--you never know when I might send you six hours worth of Jack Bruce from 68.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 19, 2010 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

It's done. Check yours.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 19, 2010 9:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

Ha--that Jack Bruce possibility must have motivated you to immediate action...I'll have to remember that.

Thanks, Rob.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jul 19, 2010 7:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

From what I can tell, you need explicit permission. See Monte's thread:

http://www.archive.org/post/315334/tapers-guide-for-the-21st-century

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 19, 2010 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

There is still a lot of gray area in Monte's thread .
greenone is helpful , but not a curator .
Where are the curator's for answers ?
Is this a small issue in the big picture ?
Isn't this issue right at the front lines of copyright law ?
Feature films and classic tv deal with copyright issues a great deal of time in their forum's . ( I know the laws are different . )
BD gave me a heads up to 2 sites to help me understand some aspects of copyright law ( thank - you BD ) . I rec. the ' comic book ' version .

http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/

http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/about.html

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jul 19, 2010 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

burns.jpg

Where's Ken Burns, when we could really use him? Why not do a very cool documentary? The Artists recorded on my tapes were developing exciting and new evolving musical forms. They were the first ones pushing their genre's boundaries -- Bluegrass music -- in several different directions at once. It was called Newgrass music. As they were doing this, they would showcase their risk-tasking musical styles, improvisational skills playing their instruments, some very lovely and soulful singing, impressive arrangements, and energy-filled performances. Audiences were thrilled to see exciting new things for the first time ever. A few of my tapes back up these facts.

Ken Burns has done documentaries on Baseball, the Civil War, and who knows what else. He even did one on Jazz. All of them have wonderful background music as well.

Grateful Dead have their funding sources, new Archivist, and they're upgrading their place at UCSC.

Shades of gray? Sure, this is most often the case. That's because no one size, or no one box, fits all. But as far as the above is concerned, it's pretty black and white to me. Tapes that are pre-1980 will back me up on this.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jul 19, 2010 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: question about uploading

great, i figured as much. Perhaps I should have guessed the answer as obvious.

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